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"People took their own lives": Nat Barr fires up over Robodebt report

<p>Sunrise host Natalie Barr has strongly condemned the Robodebt scheme as "unlawful" and accused it of victimising "500,000 people" in a passionate interview with Coalition frontbencher Bridget McKenzie.</p> <p>During the heated exchange, Barr vehemently refuted any suggestion that the situation had simply gone awry.</p> <p>“This was mathematically flawed," Barr said. "It was ruled unlawful. There were half a million victims. People took their own lives over this. Bridget, you must have some kind of view on what should happen?" </p> <p>“It’s pretty obvious that people did the wrong thing here.”</p> <p>Senator McKenzie acknowledged that politicians expected honest advice from public servants and admitted that something had clearly gone "wrong."</p> <p>“This was a comprehensive royal commission, we had from former prime ministers, senior public servants, and indeed, the broader public on this particular issue, and I think the findings are going to be very fulsome and give us, I hope, ways to ensure that this cannot happen again,’’ McKenzie said.</p> <p>Labor frontbencher Jason Clare add that he was thinking of the victims.</p> <p>“Nat, there is a report in the papers today about a mother named Jennifer Miller and her son Reese committed suicide a few years ago,’’ said Mr Clare. “He was being chased for an $18,000 debt that he did not owe. I’m thinking about her and I’m thinking about families like that today.</p> <p>“There were a number of people who committed suicide, others who try to take their own life, end up in hospital, they are still on medication today. They are the real-life human consequences of what happened here.”</p> <p>Earlier on Friday, Labor frontbencher Bill Shorten warned that the "wave of misery" caused by the Robodebt royal commission might result in referrals to the national anti-corruption commission.</p> <p>Senior ministers have already prepared to contest the report's findings, with the government approving taxpayer-funded legal assistance.</p> <p>The bombshell report on the Robodebt scandal is anticipated to include scathing criticisms of key figures in the Morrison Government and senior public servants. Additionally, a secret "sealed section" will cover potential "criminal and civil prosecutions."</p> <p>Royal commission officials have begun briefing departmental heads on adverse findings related to employees prior to the report's public release.</p> <p>Robodebts were debts incurred between July 2015 and November 2019 under the Income Compliance Program. These debts were calculated using averaged income information from the Australian Taxation Office (ATO) and were later deemed unlawful.</p> <p>In recent months, the Commonwealth has been informed of up to 16 "Notices of Potential Adverse Findings."</p> <p>These findings encompass the conduct of individuals involved in the program's development and implementation. They also pertain to data matching between the Department of Human Services and the Australian Tax Office during the Robodebt process, as well as the circumstances surrounding the Ombudsman's reports on the scheme in 2017 and 2019.</p> <p>The report will examine the prosecution briefs referred to the Commonwealth DPP by the Department of Human Services (DHS), as well as the arrangements of the in-house legal teams in DHS and the Department of Social Services (DSS).</p> <p>Furthermore, it will scrutinise the data and flaws underlying the budget assumptions that formed the basis of the Robodebt Scheme, as well as the debt recovery methods employed by the Department of Human Services.</p> <p><em>Image: Sunrise</em></p>

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"Sheer terror": Pensioner slapped with five-figure government fine

<p>Pensioner Rosemary Gay opened up about the “sheer terror” she faced upon receiving a letter from the government demanding she pay back the $65,000 Robodebt bill they claimed she had been overpaid. </p> <p>Rosemary’s nightmare began on September 19, 2016, when the letter arrived, an event that Rosemary confesses “turned my life upside down and created an enormous emotional and mental strain on me."</p> <p>The letter detailed that she was required to pay the total of $64,999.17 in overpaid welfare benefits. Centrelink claimed this was because her declared amounts did not reflect what she actually earned during the period of July 9, 2010, to 6 October, 2016.</p> <p>“It turned my life upside down,” Rosemary told the Robodebt Royal Commission on Monday, “I’ve never earned that much money, how could I owe that much money? And the fact I was to come up with it within a matter of three or four weeks, it was sheer terror.”</p> <p>The emotional 76-year-old admitted that she feared she would have to sell her home to cover the debt, and detailed the bleak path she saw before her, “all I could see was that I may be faced with selling my home and losing everything that I had worked for in my 70 years, and I just saw it all going away instantly.”</p> <p>After contacting Centrelink, Rosemary confirmed that what she had reported was the same as what was on the paperwork. She admitted to assuming that would “be the end of it.”</p> <p>Officials at Centrelink eventually told Rosemary that it came down to a “glitch”, and after a review, the total of her debt was reduced to $6,600. </p> <p>Of her Robodebt experience, Rosemary said, “it was a very dark period of time for me and one that is very difficult to re-live. My mental health and physical health, at that stage, were at a very low ebb.”</p> <p>A second review brought a new letter to Rosemary in December 2016, this time stating that her debt had been reduced to $120. </p> <p>Finally in 2020, Rosemary was informed by Centrelink that she would be refunded the $120, with the Coalition government winding up the unlawful scheme - ruled as such by the Federal Court in 2019. It is suspected that more than 381,000 people were affected, and that over $750m was wrongfully recovered from the victims. </p> <p>“I was shocked and angry by this time to think they could initially cause such a traumatic experience to anybody accessing support from a pension,” Rosemary told the Royal Commission, “it will continue to remain with me forever. It’s just something I will never get over and it has had a huge impact on my physical and mental wellbeing … </p> <p>“That they could turn someone’s life upside down and still get it so wrong over and over again.”</p> <p><em>Image: Getty Images</em></p>

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Almost 200,000 Aussies will have robodebt review scrapped

<p dir="ltr">Nearly 200,000 Australians caught up in the controversial robodebt scheme will see their cases dropped by the federal government.</p> <p dir="ltr">After the scheme was put on hold in 2019 by the then-Coalition government, 197,000 Aussies who were under a robodebt review will no longer be under investigation.</p> <p dir="ltr">The practice, which ran from July 2015 until November 2019, assessed income data from the Australian Tax Office against fortnightly Centrelink payments and raised $1.73 billion in unlawful debts against over 400,000 people.</p> <p dir="ltr">While initially hailed as a cost-saving measure to crack down on fraudsters, the government ended up repaying about $751 million, plus interest, wrongly taken from 381,000 people.</p> <p dir="ltr">The latest announcement will see letters sent confirming the scrapping of the debt to about 124,000 people who received an initial review letter, as well as 73,000 who didn’t know a review had begun at all.</p> <p dir="ltr">It is understood the debt investigations will be dropped to avoid a hit to public confidence in the social security system and because of the likelihood that any debts uncovered wouldn’t be worth the money needed to pursue them.</p> <p dir="ltr">Labor Social Services Minister Amanda Rishworth said she was pleased to relieve the stress the scheme caused to those affected by the “fiasco”.</p> <p dir="ltr">"The Robodebt fiasco is something that should be of deep concern to all Australians. It was meant to save money, however, we know it had a significant human cost," she said in a statement.</p> <p dir="ltr">"We know as late back as 2016, there were members of the public flagging concerns that these debts weren't right.</p> <p dir="ltr">"Individuals felt increasingly anxious, depressed, and worried because these debts kept coming and they couldn't understand them."</p> <p dir="ltr">With <a href="https://www.oversixty.com.au/news/news/he-was-harassed-woman-tells-how-son-took-his-life-over-incorrect-robodebt-bill" target="_blank" rel="noopener">over 2,000 Australians dying</a> after receiving hefty debt notices and being harassed by debt collectors, families of the victims have directly blamed the scheme for their deaths.</p> <p dir="ltr">Bill Shorten, the Government Services Minister, described the scheme as “shameful and illegal”.</p> <p dir="ltr">"We are removing any doubt that has been hanging over the heads of Robodebt victims for almost a decade," he said.</p> <p dir="ltr">"These dodgy debts were raised by the former Government in an illegal shakedown against some of the most vulnerable to underpin their discredited surplus forecasts."</p> <p dir="ltr">The announcement comes as public hearings in a $30 million <a href="https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/pm-launches-probe-into-unlawful-robodebt-scheme" target="_blank" rel="noopener">royal commission</a> into the scheme are expected to commence later this month.</p> <p><span id="docs-internal-guid-b2489452-7fff-7519-6a3a-36f660359e01"></span></p> <p dir="ltr"><em>Image: Getty Images</em></p>

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"He was harassed": Woman tells how son took his life over incorrect Robodebt bill

<p>Jenny Miller has shared the heart-breaking story of how her son Rhys was driven to suicide after relentless "harassment" to pay back a $28,000 Centrelink bill that was dished out under the Robodebt scheme.</p> <p>Rhys Cauzzo, a florist from Melbourne, was just 27-years-old when he took his life on Australia Day in 2017 after he was wrongly billed for the debts he didn't owe. </p> <p>Rhys was just one of over 2,000 Australians who died after received a hefty debt notice under the controversial scheme, which raised over $1billion in debts against 443,000 Australians. </p> <p>Speaking with Nat Barr on <em>Sunrise</em>, Jenny shared the devastating moment she was informed of her son's death. </p> <p>"The police came to our place on the Sunshine Coast early in the morning to tell us that he had passed," she said on Friday.</p> <p>"I arranged to fly down immediately and I found obvious signs of him being under the stress financially."</p> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"> <p dir="ltr" lang="en">The families of Robodebt victims are hopeful a royal commission will deliver justice after the scheme unlawfully claimed almost $2 billion in payments from Aussies. Jenny Miller's son Rhys took his own life after he was incorrectly told he owed Centrelink $28,000. <a href="https://t.co/eQ9bkj8RAm">pic.twitter.com/eQ9bkj8RAm</a></p> <p>— Sunrise (@sunriseon7) <a href="https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1562921013217996801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></p></blockquote> <p>"There were pictures of him holding a gun to his head and dollar signs coming out of his brain."</p> <p>Ms Miller said before her son took his own life he "got virtually daily" letters and phone calls from debt collectors Dun &amp; Bradstreet.</p> <p>"He was harassed, he was not given the opportunity to speak to anyone at Centrelink," she said. </p> <p>"They just said ''no, you have to sort out.'"</p> <p>"It was the icing on the cake for him."</p> <p>Jenny went on to thank both Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese for sticking to Labor's election promise to <a href="https://oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/pm-launches-probe-into-unlawful-robodebt-scheme" target="_blank" rel="noopener">launch a royal commission</a> into the "unlawful" scheme, which was announced earlier this week. </p> <p>"Obviously, we are still hoping to get some accountability. I have been fighting this for nearly six years and it is time that there was some answers," she said.</p> <p>During the election campaign, the Prime Minister described the Robodebt scheme as a “human tragedy, wrought by (the Coalition) government."</p> <p>“Against all evidence, and all the outcry, the government insisted on using algorithms instead of people to pursue debt recovery against Australians who in many cases had no debt to pay,” Albanese said.</p> <p><em>Image credits: Sunrise </em></p>

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PM launches probe into "unlawful" robodebt scheme

<p>Anthony Albanese has shared the details of a royal commission into the Centrelink robodebt scheme, which he committed to during the election. </p> <p>Robodebt was rolled out by the Coalition government between 2015 and 2019, which was an automated debt recovery program that was fraught with errors. </p> <p>The scheme used an automated system to match data from Centrelink and the ATO to raise debts against welfare recipients for money the then-government claimed was overpaid. </p> <p>During the election campaign, the Prime Minister described the ordeal as a “human tragedy, wrought by (the Coalition) government."</p> <p>“Against all evidence, and all the outcry, the government insisted on using algorithms instead of people to pursue debt recovery against Australians who in many cases had no debt to pay,” Albanese said.</p> <p>The program, which was found to be unlawful in 2019, raised over $1billion in debts against 443,000 Australians. </p> <p>In total, $751million was wrongly collected from 381,000 people.</p> <p>A $1.8billion settlement between victims and the federal government was reached in 2020 after a class-action lawsuit.</p> <p>Despite Albanese's determination to dive into what went wrong during the scheme, the Coalition had argued there was no need for an inquiry given the settlement.</p> <p>Scott Morrison, who was social services minister when the unlawful scheme was conceived, has repeatedly denied he was personally responsible for the program.</p> <p><em>Image credits: Getty Images</em></p>

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Centrelink changes spark uproar

<p dir="ltr">A change to Centrelink that’s due to start next month has been described as “the Hunger Games crossed with Black Mirror” and has prompted concerns for what could happen for those not capable of meeting the new requirements for welfare payments.</p> <p dir="ltr">From July 1, the current system of mutual obligations, tasks, activities, job searches and interviews a person has to complete to receive their payments will be removed, with the points-based activation system (PBAS) taking its place, per <em><a href="https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/uproar-over-new-pointsbased-system-for-welfare-recipients/news-story/150a60503a14f7a8559c249b5f60d242" target="_blank" rel="noopener">news.com.au</a></em>.</p> <p dir="ltr">Though some are happy to see the mutual obligations system come to an end, there are concerns about the problems the new PBAS - which requires recipients to earn 100 points and do at least five job searches a month - could bring.</p> <p dir="ltr">Welfare recipients can complete any of more than 30 tasks and activities from the system’s list, with each task carrying their own points value.</p> <p dir="ltr">Though programs like PaTH Internship, the National Work Experience Program, and Launch Into Work are worth 25 points - enough to reach 100 points in total - others like full-time Work for the Dole, the Adult Migrant English Program and Skills for Education and Employment are worth just 20 - requiring recipients to take on extra tasks to make up the remaining 20 points.</p> <p dir="ltr">Five points are also earned for every five hours of paid work, 20 are received for attending a job interview, and being part of the Defence Force Reserves can earn recipients 10 points, with relocating for a job being the only task worth the full 100 points.</p> <p dir="ltr">If individuals earn more than their monthly 100 points, up to 50 can be banked for the following month.</p> <p dir="ltr">However, welfare recipients have been warned their payments could be suspended and they could receive a demerit if their points target or job search minimum aren’t met.</p> <p dir="ltr">The Australian Unemployed Workers’ Union (AUWU) said the new system dialled mutual obligations “up to 11” and that it was “the Hunger Games crossed with Black Mirror”.</p> <p dir="ltr">“Using technology to ‘gamify’ starvation points (score them or lose your payment) is morally offensive to basic human decency,” the organisation said in a statement.</p> <p dir="ltr">“This is not the design of a human welfare system - this is the design of a digital workhouse set up to brutalise people in desperate economic need and push them out of the system and onto the street.”</p> <p dir="ltr">With concerns raised about some people’s ability and capacity to meet these requirements, the Department of Education, Skills and Employment (DESE) has advised that these requirements could be reduced, the value of some tasks could increase, or additional activities could be created as an “activity bonus” based on personal circumstances.</p> <p dir="ltr">However, there is also confusion about how these changes - and which provider welfare recipients will be reporting to - will play out when it is introduced in less than a month, with the AUWU fearing another “robodebt-style disaster”.</p> <p dir="ltr">“The AUWU advocacy team is receiving a large number of reports from members telling su the system has not been properly explained to them,” advocacy coordinator Racquel Araya said.</p> <p dir="ltr">“We are trying to get a handle on this system so that we can advise those reaching out, and we still do not have clarity from the department on how exactly the reporting will work, how problems will be handled or resolved and whether Centrelink has the appropriate capacity to deal with the increased call centre inquiry volume.”</p> <p><span id="docs-internal-guid-167c7d7d-7fff-bb3f-73f5-bb3ceae7f2c2"></span></p> <p dir="ltr"><em>Image: Getty Images</em></p>

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“His apology can’t make up for what I’ve lost”

<p>A grieving mother has hit out at Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s apology over the Government’s controversial robodebt scheme, which saw hundreds of thousands of people issued with incorrect debt notices.</p> <p>Speaking to the parliament on Thursday, Morrison said he regretted “any hardship that has been caused to people” who were hit with unlawful computer-generated debts.</p> <p>“I would apologise for any hurt or harm in the way that the government has dealt with that issue,” he said.</p> <p>Late last month, the Government agreed to pay back $721 million to 373,000 people chased for debts through the failed scheme over a four-year period. The refunds would be <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/29/robodebt-government-to-repay-470000-unlawful-centrelink-debts-worth-721m">delivered from July</a>, said services minister Stuart Robert.</p> <p>Kath Madgwick said the apology was not enough, and believed the robodebt contributed to her son Jarrad’s decision to take his own life.</p> <p>“His apology can’t make up for what I’ve lost,” she told the <em><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/pm-apologises-for-hurt-and-harm-caused-robodebt-scheme/12345166">ABC</a></em>.</p> <p>“But for others, hopefully it could.”</p> <p>Madgwick said the Government should also apologise to its staff.</p> <p>“I can only imagine the mental anguish that their staff go through, taking these calls, trying to sort out debts that we don't even know exist.”</p> <p>Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter said he could not issue an apology because of the ongoing litigations over the program.</p> <p>“I’m not going to use that word because … as Attorney-General I can’t use the sort of language in the context of the litigation,” Porter told <em>Insiders </em>on Sunday.</p> <p>A <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/17/robodebt-class-action-shorten-unveils-david-and-goliath-legal-battle-into-centrelink-scheme">class action</a> against the Government, brought by Gordon Legal, seeks repayments with interest and damages on behalf of claimants.</p> <p>Gordon Legal founder Peter Gordon said the Government should apologise so that people affected by the scheme can “move forward” with their lives.</p> <p>“If [the Government] is prepared to offer a genuine and a proper apology to everyone whose lives have been so severely affected by the flawed and unlawful robodebt scheme, we will undertake not to use that apology, or the fact of that apology, in the litigation,” Gordon told <em><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/robodebt-class-action-lawyers-urge-government-to-apologise/12302108">7.30</a></em>.</p> <p>“This apology is really important … to move forward, to allow people to get on with their lives and to begin to try and trust the government again.”</p> <p>Robert said debt collection, which had been paused amid the coronavirus crisis, will resume on the other side for 939,000 Australians with debts adding up to $5 billion.</p> <p>“The government has paused all debt collection across all programs as we work our way through the COVID-19 crisis,” he said.</p> <p>“But the government will have to restart that debt collection and will do it sensibly and do it engaging all people, do it in a very transparent manner.”</p>

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Government to refund $720 million extorted through robodebt

<p>The Federal Government has announced it will refund more than $720 million dollars to people who were unlawfully issued with debt notices under Robodebt, which many have labelled an extortion scheme targeting those without means to challenge it.</p> <p>And although the decision won’t bring back those driven to depression and even to suicide as a result of the burden of having to pay money or face the prospect of a criminal prosecution, it will vindicate the thousands victimised by the government’s patently illegal conduct.</p> <p><strong>The class action</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/class-action-brought-over-robodebt/">A class action by more than 13,000 Australians was set to proceed later this year</a>. The suit had been under way for some time, but gained momentum after a lawsuit, brought by Victoria Legal Aid in the Federal Court last year <a href="https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/robodebt-is-unlawful-federal-court-rules/">determined that raising debts which relied solely on income averaging was unlawful</a>.</p> <p>As a result, over the past few weeks Centrelink has been in the process of contacting anyone who was affected by Robodebt’s flawed algorithms which based calculations on income averaging’, to notify them of the class action, but now the Federal Government has announced that it will refund 470,000 debts, along with interest and fees.</p> <p><strong>Illegal system</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/robodebt-class-action-is-coming/">Robodebt</a> was introduced by the Turnbull Government in 2016.</p> <p>At the time, the government hailed it as a huge triumph, saying it would “crack down on dole bludgers and welfare rorters” and “recover” billions of dollars over a period of just a few years.</p> <p>The previous system, which was not automated, only generated about 20,000 letters a year. But in the early days of the new automated system, that number skyrocketed to around 20,000 letters a week.</p> <p>But instead, it targeted many thousands of average Australians, sending notices asking them to pay debts they don’t owe. Many more have received notices with inflated debt figures based on incorrect calculations or misinformation within the system. Others, receiving payments such as Youth Allowance and Newstart have were asked to verify their income dating back as far as 2010.</p> <p>Alarm bells about potential mistakes in the automated system were raised across the nation about 6 months into its existence, during December and January 2016, when Centrelink began tweeting the contact number for Lifeline.</p> <p>Centrelink staff were simply unable to cope with the sheer volume of calls and complaints about the automated debt notices. Those who had received notices were being charged fees and interest and being pursued relentlessly by debt companies, or threatened with deductions from their current salaries until the debt was paid.</p> <p><strong>Powerless against the system</strong></p> <p>When Centrelink was unable to help people in a timely way, many felt completely powerless against the ‘system’ – the way that the scheme operated,  the onus was on individuals to disprove their debt, rather than for the Government to authenticate it.</p> <p>Around the same time, the Federal Government also introduced Departure Prohibition Orders (DPOs) that stopped anyone who <a href="https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/if-you-owe-money-to-centrelink-dont-try-to-leave-australia/">owed a debt to Centrelink from leaving Australia</a>, irrespective of the size of the debt, until either the amount owing was paid in full, the debtor makes an agreed lump sum payment, or enters into a repayment plan.</p> <p>For some, the financial distress proved too much. <a href="https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/centrelinks-flawed-robo-debt-system-is-killing-our-most-vulnerable/">More than 2000 people died after receiving a robo-debt notice between July 2016 to October 2018</a>. While no cause for their death has ever been reported, and the Department of Human Services said it was ridiculous to draw conclusions from these numbers, it is known that almost a third were classified as ‘vulnerable’ – which means they  had complex needs like mental illness, drug use or were victims of domestic violence.</p> <p>The damage has been done. But at least now, there is justice for the majority of Robodebt victims who will start <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/29/robodebt-was-a-flagrant-abuse-of-government-power-it-should-never-have-seen-the-light-of-day?fbclid=IwAR2XYRRtO3DuycBcLZxt-PkiJhy5dfIjzwILsB_cRvYs8LWE_Pvd2Epyjyk">receiving their refunds in July this year</a>.</p> <p>It is possible that many more cases may be eligible for refunds, because despite the fact that the Government has pledged to pay back $721 million, according to information released by the Senate, more than 680,000 debts have been raised over the years, with a value of about $1.4 billion.</p> <p>Anyone who believes they have been affected should contact Centrelink.</p> <p><em>Written by Sonia Hickey. Republished with permission of </em><a href="https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/government-to-refund-720-million-extorted-through-robodebt/"><em>Sydney Criminal Lawyers.</em></a></p>

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Centrelink accused of “disability bullying” after man receives a $15,000 debt

<p>Centrelink has been accused of “disability bullying” after an intellectually disabled man was told he owed a $15,000 “robodebt”.</p> <p>Christopher Pascoe, a 53-year-old man with epilepsy and an intellectual disability, received a debt of $15,537.62 from the Department of Human Services in July 2018.</p> <p>The department alleged he declared a lower income than he actually earned between 2013 and 2016.</p> <p>The <em><a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-07/centrelink-accused-of-disability-bullying-over-$15,000-robodebt/11570920">ABC</a></em>’s <em>7.30 </em>reported that Christopher does not declare his income to Centrelink, which is a common practice for people with a disability that limits their ability to handle their own finances.</p> <p>“The unfairness in the fact that Christopher knew nothing about it,” his mother, Yvonne Pascoe said.</p> <p>“The facts were just presented to us about 18 months ago as, you know, this is a complete deal.”</p> <p>After she spent “hundreds of hours” on phone calls seeking explanation from Centrelink, the welfare agency later admitted it had made mistakes in calculating the debt against Christopher. In a further debt letter dated February 2019, Christopher’s debt was reduced to a little under $11,000.</p> <p>“It’s really disability bullying to me because it’s just gone on,” she said.</p> <p>After <em>7.30</em> reached out to the department for comment, Christopher received a letter from a Centrelink legal officer offering to waive the remainder of his debt.</p> <p>However, Yvonne said she was still undecided whether to accept the offer.</p> <p>“It seems unreal and that’s why I’m being, I suppose, a bit mistrustful. I want it explained to me in detail the why’s and how’s of how this has happened and who has decided to do this,” she said.</p> <p>“I just can’t understand how it could have gone on so long and no one’s happened to notice.”</p> <p>Earlier this year, two federal court cases were launched against the automated Centrelink debt – also known as robodebt – scheme, spearheaded by <a href="https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/about-us/news/it-felt-like-guilty-until-proven-innocent-new-test-case-against-centrelinks-robo-debt-system">Victoria Legal Aid</a>.</p> <p>“More than 500,000 robo-debts have now been raised by a process that is opaque and unfair,” the firm’s executive director Rowan McRae said.</p> <p>“We know it’s unfair … we also think the scheme is unlawful and we’d like a court to test that.”</p> <p>Last month, Bill Shorten announced that he will be pursuing a <a href="https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/bill-shorten-announces-class-action-into-centrelink-robo-debt-system">class action suit</a> against the scheme with law firm Gordon Legal. “The scheme – including its reverse onus of proof – is at best legally dubious and should rightly have its legality determined by a court,” Shorten said.</p>

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